Marvin Shilmer
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What is their official explanation for not allowing beards?
by keyser soze ini ask because my gf, who knows all about my jw upbringing, convinced me to grow a goatee, just to see how it looks.
we both decided it looked good so i decided to keep it.
i tried to explain to her that as a jw, i wasn't allowed to grow one, but then drew a blank when she asked me why.
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Marvin Shilmer
To my knowledge there is no official explanation for not allowing beards. In some cultures JWs do have beards without it being an issue. But in Western lands it is definitely frowned upon. But you'll be hard pressed to find an official statement against it. -
Child Molestation Reporting Levels ... Chart
by Marvin Shilmer intoday i added a new article to my blog.
it contains a chart graphing the level of reporting to watchtower of sexual abuse of children.
my article is title child molestation reporting levels .
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Marvin Shilmer
Today i added a new article to my blog. It contains a chart graphing the level of reporting to Watchtower of sexual abuse of children.
My article is title Child Molestation Reporting Levels
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Branch Manual 2015
by Marvin Shilmer inapparently the backroom arguments have been heard and decided.
the royal commission finally uploaded a redacted version of the 2015 branch manual.
watchtower lawyers were looking to have as much redacted from this manual as possible.
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Marvin Shilmer
Apparently the backroom arguments have been heard and decided. The Royal Commission finally uploaded a redacted version of the 2015 Branch Manual.
Watchtower lawyers were looking to have as much redacted from this manual as possible. It ended up the only section that has redacted content is Section 4 addressing duties of the Personnel Committee. All the stuff about Bethelite life was redacted leaving only the part addressing judicial committees.
If readers have not already downloaded this thing now is your chance.
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Royal Commission... Monty Baker?
by Marvin Shilmer ini see a former elder by the name of monty baker on the royal commission's witness list.
transcripts show a lawyer representing monty baker during the hearings, but so far i see no transcript where monty baker has testified before the commission.
am i missing something?
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Marvin Shilmer
Pardon me. I found it. -
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Royal Commission... Monty Baker?
by Marvin Shilmer ini see a former elder by the name of monty baker on the royal commission's witness list.
transcripts show a lawyer representing monty baker during the hearings, but so far i see no transcript where monty baker has testified before the commission.
am i missing something?
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Marvin Shilmer
I see a former elder by the name of Monty Baker on the Royal Commission's witness list. Transcripts show a lawyer representing Monty Baker during the hearings, but so far I see no transcript where Monty Baker has testified before the Commission. Am I missing something? -
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Elmwood congregation, Dallas, Texas.
by witnessscorn ini was in elmwood congregation, in early 70's i have reason to believe there was ritual abuse going on while i was there.
anybody have any incite?
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Marvin Shilmer
Does the name Picchioni mean anything to you?
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royal commission so far
by zeb inbefore another day goes past please, summarize the outcome in dot points of the royal commission so far.
for me in no order;.
that the wt considers sex crimes against children of little importance.
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Marvin Shilmer
Marvin, that is a very frightening scale of abuse when presented this way. And these are so called known figures..... it is likely far greater....
Yes. The numbers are frightening. Making this worse is that my extrapolation ignored about 10% of the reported cases for reasons stated in my findings. Hence the number of child molesters known by congregation elders is very probably much higher than what I've extrapolated. .
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Australian Branch Stats?
by Marvin Shilmer ini'm working on some statistical analysis of child abuse data made public by the royal commission.
while i'm working on this, can someone here do me a favor and look up the peak publisher figures reported by watchtower for the australian branch for each of the years from 2005 through 2014?
my thanks in advance.
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Marvin Shilmer
Marvin - there was a WT article in October 1983 which pretty much encouraged those who'd been abused within the family to go to the elders for 'spiritual help'. 1985 started with the Awake on child molestation. Not sure if that would explain any bump in numbers for the period you mention.
I considered that. But the main "bump" I saw began in or around 1989-1990. Remember the case files from the Australian Branch are a result of reporting from elders, and not all this reporting is the result of judicial committee activity. I think this fits the profile of direction issued in 1989 for elders to report to Watchtower's legal department the reporting of any allegation of child abuse. As of that letter, it didn't matter if the allegation had ramification of a judicial committee. The mere report of child abuse instigated a report to Watchtower.
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Australian Branch Stats?
by Marvin Shilmer ini'm working on some statistical analysis of child abuse data made public by the royal commission.
while i'm working on this, can someone here do me a favor and look up the peak publisher figures reported by watchtower for the australian branch for each of the years from 2005 through 2014?
my thanks in advance.
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Marvin Shilmer
Why did you use peak publisher and not average publisher. Wouldn't the average publishers give a more accurate picture. If you were to use ave pubs what would the numbers come out at.
Whether I used the peak or average publisher count it would not matter to the end result because the population size is fixed based on the hard count in the data base of cases. The only reason I used peak publishers is because Watchtower's submissions to the Royal Commission about the number of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Australian Branch uses the peak publisher count.
I also think you need to post these current findings in another thread.
If there is enough interest in these values I might do that. Let's see whether there is an appetite for the discussion.
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These Aussie girls are popular around the world for lipsing
by barry inwww.youtube.com/watch?v=pmpqusqcjfg.
what on gods earth is the world coming too.
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Marvin Shilmer
Just watched this latest video. I have to say it. These gals are flat-out hot. On fire hot.